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Post  DR on Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:37 pm

Hi PiB, in that game you asked for a list, so here is a list. Aside from the general stuff you have to know (last hits, map aware to avoid ganks) I've added a little extra for points of notice.

Pirate
work on torrent and/or ship initiation. X + torrent set up.

Spec
Map aware to use ult for ganks, if you are sufficiently aware u can use ult for escape. In unusual cases (unlikely in pubs) is for initiation. Dagger walking through terrain/forest for escaping.

Brood
Spiderlings to push and generally being very offensive against opposing lane enemies. You get to find out when aggressiveness is suicidal Razz.

DK
Last hit + stacking ancient camp.

SA
Cloud placement, blink strike for movign round battlefield (eg. escaping).

PL (you need a kotl partner for this)
Lancing + dopplewalk (for offense)

Naix
When to rage + blink dagger, armlet. Infest for pro skilling

Unconventional/Semi carries
Syllabear!
Micro bear + self for uber last hit

PA
Just farm REALLY well to reach domination, blink strike like sa however.

SF
Razes, then razes + blink, and ult + blink

Tinker
When is a good time to tp in + mana management

Potm
Invis initiation, arrow, leap dodges/escapes, starfall palcement (early in game).

QoP
blink + allowance of sight for scream (and to hide) + when to ult (trying to get all enemy heroes or as many as possible).

Windrunner
Shackle placement, maximum use of windrun, target selection for focus, and of course a little bit of arrowing Razz. Arrow though by comparison is easy.

Panda
Initiation which is "blink, clap, ult"

Storm
Ulting to right position, placement of remnant, mana management

I've missed out heroes like TB, void, etc. because well meh? I'm lazy? Its just a list of my opinion for carry heroes or carry possible that you might see. I've missed out certain details for sure but Razz

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Post  PIB on Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:05 am

wicked, cheers for that. Thought it should be a good time to expand my skills other than being a ward/kfc bitch..... will try get on and test them out, but house sitting for the next week so wont be anywhere near a comp that has wc3, though might be able to "borrow" thier net and take comp there lol
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Post  DR on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:36 am

Just speaking, if your house sitting, every thing there is to be used Very Happy. Its not like they'll need bandwidth on holiday Wink

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Post  ssiterl on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:38 am

isnt NA semi carrry, and PA hard carry?

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Post  ssiterl on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:40 am

and where is the mighty visage!
u cant miss visage!

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Post  PIB on Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:49 am

yea, i was thinking that too, but not sure if they have a password, which would suck... sigh
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Post  Stankey on Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:41 pm

well PA is hard, but "unconventional". Kinda like TA, fuck she owns tho.

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Post  DR on Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:04 pm

NA isn't a carry. I think if I were voo/genki it'd be accompanined by a DIAF similar kind of sentiment XD.

PA is unconventional though? not normal pick (we should pick her more btw), also the only "pro" thing you can do with visage is farm two lanes at once with birds + hero. Its not a bad thing I suppose though.

My TA is mediocre Sad so while there is lots of potential there, damned if I can show it.

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Post  Stankey on Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:08 pm

lolz deso = gg pwnage on TA really. Fly later, but blink is fukin cool, u just trap, blink meld, gg lots. Or u do the pro meld then wen they come u hit/meld/hit for gg double meld dmg. and refraction is just fukin rediculous.

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Post  Genkidesuka on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:28 pm

Genkidesuka for semicarry player '09

EDIT: DIAF

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Post  Stankey on Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:58 pm

yeah wats diaf?

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Post  Deja.Voo on Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:11 pm

NA semi carry...I'm sure SS ment AM easy mistake to make. Also DR DIAF, Pirate is not a top tier carry like brood, spec or DK and also i didn't see DP or NS/BS in your list so I think you lost all credibility. Another point to be made...Why would you want to start trying to play carry pib...we've got soooo many people able to play carry what we need is more people like you who can play support/gankers effectively, DR i think you should remember your place too as recently i haven't seen you playing an awful lot of ward bitches/map control technician of which i would say you're the best in the clan although you don't like doing it.
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Post  Deja.Voo on Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:12 pm

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Post  Stankey on Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:28 pm

u rekon brood carries harder then pirate? NS/BS rofl.

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Post  ssiterl on Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:56 pm

yeh dr, miss ur wards!

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Post  Deja.Voo on Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:50 pm

Although i don't really like brood much as a carry yes she is ranked over pirate as a carry.
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Post  Stankey on Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:55 pm

if shes ur carry wud she still get vlads? like go less pushy, more butterfly etc?

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Post  DR on Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:00 pm

Zomgd, stupid thingy stopped my long as post.

Anyway NS + BS, relatively simple to carry with, last hit, cast 2 spells run in and pwn someone. Put them on the list sure if you want, but I dont' think they need that much to learn >.>

Dpro = ironic carry. Also, I was first to pick her + panda in a -cm IH? Against genki.... now who won that game?

Also ss, if you pro warded you wouldnt miss my wards Very Happy.

Its good for pib to try new things, it improves understanding of game and stops him commiting suicide due to boredom.

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Post  Deja.Voo on Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:51 am

Actually DR i picked DP ages ago when I went a push strat in a really early IH much to the disgust of those on my team. Many a flame was said...but yea back then i wasn't aware that we can't do push...
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Post  ssiterl on Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:23 am

4 51 AM, what a pro,
we should try push strat again sometime,
may not work but can always prac out

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Post  PIB on Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:16 am

Deja.Voo wrote:Another point to be made...Why would you want to start trying to play carry pib...we've got soooo many people able to play carry what we need is more people like you who can play support/gankers effectively, DR i think you should remember your place too as recently i haven't seen you playing an awful lot of ward bitches/map control technician of which i would say you're the best in the clan although you don't like doing it.


sigh.... how is he betteR?
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Post  Stankey on Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:22 pm

ur asking how is dr a better sup player then u? lol? I mean i admit ss carries better then me, im sure you can do the same big boy. Its not like your a dota god.

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Post  DR on Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:57 pm

That is true voo, fortunately I included "+ panda" which i distinctly remember because Stankey was like "PANDA SO COOL I MUST PLAY", glad it made him happy Razz.

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Post  Stankey on Thu Feb 12, 2009 7:13 pm

lol panda is the shizzle, genki played him last time cus they made me play axe rite after we had jungle axe vs that clan, so they were like, we are gna block ur shit and be bitches. gg. ALSO for reference i think cm/axe wud have worked out better in that mega lag game where they had meepo, instead of lion. Oh no wait that wuda been BAD cus epic lag, i cudnt of done shit all, ew the blink calls wuda been bad lol. I DO like warlock solo lots tho, its the been knees. But yeh wud u skip vlads on brood if carry?

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Post  DR on Thu Feb 12, 2009 8:28 pm

I'm just going to assume the games involved don't include me Razz. Btw, I won't be on so much since I have a job XD.

If your asking me about brood, vlads would either be item you don't get, or you get last. You need strong dps for it to be useful, and when you have your ult you already have the lifesteal you need. Its an item you'd get after having like 3 tier 4 items Razz.

Warlock solo rush necro 3 or guinsoo? Razz

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